Would RFK JR be a Threat to Agriculture? With Trent Loos

In this episode of North American Ag Spotlight, Chrissy Wozniak sits down with Trent Loos—a sixth-generation farmer, radio, tv and podcast host, and outspoken voice for agriculture. Trent shares his insights on critical issues facing agriculture, including government regulations, property rights, and environmental policies that impact farmers across the nation.

From his encounters with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to his in-depth analysis of the controversial CO2 pipelines, Trent provides a firsthand look at the struggles of American agriculture. Chrissy and Trent also discuss the challenges posed by net carbon policies, the influence of global agendas on local farming, and the importance of standing up for personal property rights.

Listeners will leave this episode with a renewed perspective on how grassroots activism and local involvement are essential for safeguarding agricultural freedoms and land ownership. Join Chrissy and Trent as they unpack the complex landscape of modern farming and the hope that comes from unity in the face of division.

Links & Resources:

Watch the RFK Jr. video on CO2 pipelines mentioned in this episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llcvrKDJRo0
Learn more about Trent Loos’ work - http://www.loostales.com/
Explore related articles and resources on Sustains Act - https://www.americanagriwomen.org/sustains

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Transcript

00:00:04:01 - 00:00:25:14
Chrissy Wozniak
Hi, and welcome to North American Ag Spotlight Podcast. I'm Chrissy Wozniack. My guest today. I am super excited to have him back on the show. He's a sixth generation farmer, radio, TV and podcast host. But most importantly, he's a patriotic warrior for the agriculture industry, for property rights and for liberty and for those in the audience that know my story.

00:00:25:15 - 00:00:57:11
Chrissy Wozniak
You know that I moved from Canada to Florida three years ago, and what you might not know is that this man right here had a big part in helping me decide to make the biggest move of my life, and I will forever be grateful, to the, to his support and all the many phone calls that that decision took for, this AG Spotlight episode the week before election, I thought that there would be no better guest than to have him on the show and give his thoughts about what lays ahead.

00:00:57:13 - 00:01:07:11
Chrissy Wozniak
From now, especially now till January from central Nebraska, I'd like to welcome Trent Loos. Welcome, Trent, and thank you so much for your time.

00:01:07:13 - 00:01:16:15
Trent Loos
Oh. I would give you my time. Any time you ask. You just rarely ask. But surely you misspoke. There wasn't three years ago and you migrated to Florida. Was it?

00:01:16:17 - 00:01:23:02
Chrissy Wozniak
It was four years when I started thinking about it. Wow. Time went fast.

00:01:23:07 - 00:01:26:20
Trent Loos
It was 2020 when we got together. Originally, wasn't it?

00:01:26:22 - 00:01:28:02
Chrissy Wozniak
Yep. Yeah. And you had.

00:01:28:02 - 00:01:31:09
Trent Loos
Me hiding out in the bunker in a church.

00:01:31:11 - 00:01:37:07
Chrissy Wozniak
Nuts, right? Yeah. And at the border. Remember we live streamed when it was at the border. Yep.

00:01:37:09 - 00:01:40:12
Trent Loos
I was going to come see it. The border. And then it didn't work out.

00:01:40:14 - 00:01:42:18
Chrissy Wozniak
Yep. Yeah. That's right.

00:01:42:20 - 00:01:57:00
Trent Loos
Well, we're honored to have you here. Thanks for being here. And thanks for doing everything that you're doing. I know that you're just traveling the world and you're the real warrior. I just try to identify people like you and. But truly put them in the spotlight.

00:01:57:02 - 00:02:31:00
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah, well. Thank you. So the main reason you popped into my head this week is are of Kim. So I know that you have a weird relationship, and I want you to tell that story, of how you've gotten to know RFK. And the reason for that is because, you know, in listening to RFK, his campaign over the last couple of years, you've especially I and I and I'm sure you have really seen some of the the truth that he's talking about, especially when it comes to health.

00:02:31:02 - 00:03:00:16
Chrissy Wozniak
Well, what is it worrying a lot of people in the industry is this activist side of him, which is and could really have disastrous consequences for agriculture and, you know, just the the seeing his ad last week of him standing in front of USDA kind of gave me some shivers. So I, clearly want Trump to win. I know that that would be the best for the country.

00:03:00:16 - 00:03:12:04
Chrissy Wozniak
I'm just a little bit worried, and I think we all are a little bit about, you know, what? What could this mean? So can you start first with your story about following him around.

00:03:12:06 - 00:03:43:00
Trent Loos
And so you want the whole story. Yes, the whole story dates back to 2002. And I actually the very first time I had an interaction with, Bobby Kennedy was in Northfield, Minnesota, at Saint Olive College. A friend of mine from Washington, D.C. called and said, Trent, if you're truly going to be an activist for agriculture, you better go monitor what Bobby Kennedy is doing right now against livestock agriculture.

00:03:43:02 - 00:04:09:04
Trent Loos
And he is speaking this week in Saint at Saint Old College in Northfield, Minnesota. So, like I do, I hop in my pickup and I had to say, you know, of college, I got there, I was part of the press conference and and Christy, this was really one of the first times that I'm in an environment where people are adversarial to agriculture and in particular modern day agriculture.

00:04:09:06 - 00:04:40:06
Trent Loos
I had at this point in time, I had just previously started, I started doing this and media work in 1999, and I wanted to tell the story of agriculture. I wanted to make sure that people understood that domestic food and fuel production means of national security. I identified some of the great challenges of being the animal rights community, because the animal rights community taps into an abundance of wealth and then they use that money to basically, you know, eliminate the ability for us to own animals as property.

00:04:40:08 - 00:05:05:19
Trent Loos
And at some level, Bobby played into that little realm of people that I was already engaged with. Anyway, in the animal rights community. And so when I got there, I saw this animal rights group plus the environmental group, and they were all like, they were on steroids. And then it was in the press conference, which I was able to get into because I had media credentials that I first heard him say.

00:05:05:19 - 00:05:32:16
Trent Loos
And what is happening on our pig farms today in the United States is causing people to lose humanity. And I've been involved with a pig every day of my life. We have had as high as 2000 cows, have had, bigger operations. I've managed, I should say, I provided daily care for 1 million animals in my lifetime at the age of 58, and most of those obviously have been pigs.

00:05:32:18 - 00:06:00:16
Trent Loos
And then he even talked about the very operation that I was working with in South Dakota, which was a joint venture between the Bell family and the Rosebud Sioux Tribe. And I can remember my neck getting red, and I'm just kind of my my temperature elevated. So there was a press conference. And then after the press conference, he was going to the auditorium to address the greater group, which was ultimately about 600 people.

00:06:00:18 - 00:06:21:01
Trent Loos
And when he finished his press conference, you can imagine what this is like. It's a Kennedy, and people are just bombarding him. And I just was standing back trying to figure out what the right approach was, what I was going, if I was going to do anything other than just observe. And then I saw him walk in the restroom alone.

00:06:21:03 - 00:06:47:05
Trent Loos
I mean, that's like an invitation to have a one on one discussion, right? So clearly and and fortunately, some men have urinals, so we don't have a stall to yell through, you know? So up in here, until next time. Sorry to be so graphic, but this whole plate played out and I said, hi, my name is Trent Lewis, sixth generation United States farmer, and I am here to hold you accountable to the lies that you tell about my industry.

00:06:47:07 - 00:07:12:13
Trent Loos
And as you can imagine, in that environment, in that situation where everybody is just glad handing him and oh, you're such a great American, blah, blah, blah, this kind of cut him off guard a bit. And so that was our first interaction, and he introduced me to Nicolette Hahn, at that time, who was running the Waterkeeper Alliance. And then I decided I took it upon myself that I'm just going to keep track of where he's at and when he speaks, I'm going to be there in the front row.

00:07:12:13 - 00:07:32:16
Trent Loos
And so for the next eight consecutive weeks, I had interaction with Bobby Kennedy. And by the time we got to Oklahoma City at the University of Oklahoma, he was speaking. I was sitting in the front row. He started introducing me as Trent Lewis, a sixth generation farmer who's been hired by the Mafia to follow him around and intimidate him.

00:07:32:18 - 00:07:50:12
Trent Loos
And we had this real dog and pony show that was all over the country, from Santa Rosa, California to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. I just simply kept track of where he was at, and I didn't do anything other than let him know I was going to be there. And I recorded the lies that he was telling people about animal agriculture.

00:07:50:14 - 00:08:12:12
Trent Loos
And so a couple of years we had this thing, and what he was really doing was he was trying to build a class action lawsuit against the big players in the pork industry, the smithfield's of the world, who at that time was not owned by Hong Kong. A group like it is today. It was owned by Joseph Luter and Investor.

00:08:12:12 - 00:08:36:10
Trent Loos
So it was a completely different animal. But it's the largest pork production system in the country. And he lost that class action lawsuit. He did not win. And things kind of faded. And then we had a couple interactions just in strange places. Speaking in Pennsylvania one day, a couple of years later and somebody told me that he was there speaking at Bucknell College and and so I went just to kind of, you know, relive old times.

00:08:36:12 - 00:08:57:12
Trent Loos
And, we had a little interaction at that moment. And we never had any interaction from about 2006 or 7 until 2020. And a friend of mine, a medical doctor, said, you really need to talk to Bobby Kennedy. I said, I don't think that's going to go well. No, no, you guys are on the same page on a lot of stuff.

00:08:57:14 - 00:09:24:06
Trent Loos
I don't think, Ted. I don't think that's going to go away. So ended up he sent me his email and I sent him a note because we're we're on the same page today with vaccinations. We're on the same page with health as it involves what? What the general public is being lied to about the true medical profession and his many friends and family and loved ones as I've had in the medical profession.

00:09:24:06 - 00:09:46:11
Trent Loos
It's just taken a completely different turn. And Bobby's always been very steadfast in that. He's always been anti-vaccination. He's always been, too much medical intervention, too much corruption, too much too many deals made in the backroom, which, by the way, in the early 2000, I thought only the left side of the equation made those deals. Now I know better.

00:09:46:11 - 00:10:14:16
Trent Loos
I know that left to right, we got a serious problem. So I wrote out an email and I sent it to him, and he got back to me right away and he said, and the funny thing is that spiritual wars like we're in today create strange friends who work together on projects. And so we started talking and then I invited him, come on, a couple broadcasts.

00:10:14:16 - 00:10:39:04
Trent Loos
He came on a couple broadcast. When he started campaigning, he and his campaign crew actually would get into a situation when they needed agricultural advice. They would call me in Iowa when he needed a certain number of people to show up at a caucus in order that he would be an independent candidate. He called me and asked me to do an interview because he knew I have the agricultural and rural community that I can tap into.

00:10:39:06 - 00:10:58:03
Trent Loos
And so in 20 years, we got this whole strange dichotomy where we're adversarial and now we've got some things we agree on. And what you're talking about is it should be a concern to everyone, which, by the way, I don't believe he'll be the Secretary of Agriculture in any way, shape or form, if that's what you're alluding to.

00:10:58:05 - 00:11:22:16
Trent Loos
But he has this notion that the big agriculture in any way, shape or form is bad. You have to define big agriculture because we have to feed 8 billion people on the planet, which is ultimately what they're trying to do is depopulate the planet. I understand all that, but just because we have large entities in agriculture, it doesn't mean they're automatically bad.

00:11:22:18 - 00:11:42:18
Trent Loos
If you're working at improving culture, if you're working to improving soil health, if you're working improving the wholesomeness, the safety of the food is produced. I don't care if you have two cows or 20,000 cows. You can get that done. It comes back to the individual management and preferences. And he's pursuing things like, well, we don't need fertilizer.

00:11:42:20 - 00:12:05:19
Trent Loos
You know too, he's too close on some of the net carbon zero issues that I completely disagree with. The interesting thing about all of this, as much as we come together on the medical front, I have spent every day of my life for the last three years. Christy fighting the CO2 pipelines in Nebraska, South Dakota, Iowa, and Arctic Cota.

00:12:05:21 - 00:12:35:22
Trent Loos
And he's been one of the great vocal champions against the CO2 pipeline. This boondoggle, which is going to break America and most importantly, put the people on the path of this pipeline in grave danger. And he just two weeks ago did a video about the dangers of the CO2 pipeline. So it's such an interesting relationship that we've had where there are some things that we can come together and have a great agreement and discussion about, and other things that we just agree to disagree.

00:12:35:24 - 00:12:59:02
Chrissy Wozniak
And I love that, you know, the we've had so much division, especially over the last four years. And then if you've been in agriculture, it's been ten, 15 years of, you know, lies and and division and marketing. Of course, I'm in marketing so I can talk bad of marketers. But, you know, marketing has played a huge role in in these lies and agriculture.

00:12:59:04 - 00:13:18:24
Chrissy Wozniak
And so I think that just gives me a lot of hope that if we could move to a place where, yeah, we don't agree on everything, but we can have that conversation now, I think that's really helpful. And I, I, I would love for the days of treating politics like a football game where you have your, you know, your, jersey.

00:13:18:24 - 00:13:42:10
Chrissy Wozniak
And that's, that's the only team you can, you can root for. We have to start asking questions and challenging everything. And, yeah. So that that really gives me a lot of hope. What you're saying there, I know something that has come up a few times in, in my recent conversations is, the sustained act. Right.

00:13:42:10 - 00:14:05:08
Chrissy Wozniak
And the great Mindy Patterson has done a ton of research and has really been sharing that research with everyone. And about the power that will move to Terry if all of their dream list comes true and this is all instated. So I think that's where a lot of people are getting a little bit nervous about him standing in front of USDA with his activist roots.

00:14:05:14 - 00:14:14:06
Chrissy Wozniak
So why do you say that he that we shouldn't? Is it that we don't have to worry about that? Or is it that, he's going he's.

00:14:14:06 - 00:14:39:00
Trent Loos
Not going to be with part of agriculture? I'm very convinced of that. Yeah, the Sustains Act is a horrible thing. And Mindy does fantastic work. In fact, I had her on my broadcast about that early on. The truth of the matter is that we've been doing public private partnerships for a long time, and they've created such, the word of the day boondoggle for those of us that want to maintain property rights.

00:14:39:02 - 00:15:07:00
Trent Loos
And, for example, Nature's Conservancy is wonderful at coming in, acquiring a an easement, whether that be a wildlife easement, the riparian area easement, whatever the case may be, ends up control. When you have somebody sign an easement for you on your land, you've just given control of that land most of the time for perpetuity to somebody else, despite the fact that you're going to continue to pay the mortgage, you're going to continue to pay the property tax.

00:15:07:05 - 00:15:30:18
Trent Loos
You then have to call somebody else and ask them if you can build a shed on your property that that flies in the face of what made America what it is today in terms of the resource producing nation that is, that produces essentials of life for mankind. And then you have that third party entity that comes in and there every single time.

00:15:30:18 - 00:15:57:07
Trent Loos
Christy, there's a relationship between, let's say, the Department of Wildlife and Nature Conservancy and all of a sudden the federal government achieves the control of this land that you thought you're working with. The third party that is in a nutshell, is what the Sustains Act does, and it puts it all on a fast track, because what we see happening, and it's interesting that you and I are having this discussion today, because this morning I'm on my Across the Pond segment.

00:15:57:09 - 00:16:26:17
Trent Loos
I had Lila McDougal from Victoria, Australia on and she was walking through how they're building these wind development centers in Australia, in Victoria. Now they want to build transmission corridors in Victoria, and they want to take the land away from people and remove their right to use the land. And I said, all you need to do is open your eyes and see that this is a global agenda to remove land ownership from individuals and put it all collectively into the state.

00:16:26:17 - 00:16:45:11
Trent Loos
No different than the Bolshevik Revolution, a revolution that happened in Russian in 1920. And if you're a student of history, you see that these people are not creative in any way, shape or form. They just do something that's already been done that we don't learn about and then try to make it work. And you have to take a stand on property rights.

00:16:45:14 - 00:17:02:04
Trent Loos
The Saint Sustains act along with CO2 pipelines, along with wind, along with solar, along the transmission lines at every level, remove our ability to use our land as we see fit. And when we continue to do that to where we don't control it, we've lost freedom.

00:17:02:06 - 00:17:23:04
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah, there's so much to unpack there. The, the that basic issue. And this is why I say we have to stop treating it like football. We have to look at every single issue because unfortunately, I think a lot of us are becoming the useful idiots that are pushing this agenda along. In our industry, because that's the way it always is.

00:17:23:04 - 00:17:41:10
Chrissy Wozniak
That's, you know, and everybody wants to conserve land. Everybody wants to keep farmland in, in their families. But like you just said, the danger is, is there where now you're giving over your property forever in perpetuity. Like, really think about this right. So.

00:17:41:12 - 00:17:49:24
Trent Loos
I use the term useful idiots in a debate the other day against the two people I was debating. They didn't take it all, but they are useful idiots.

00:17:50:01 - 00:17:51:05
Chrissy Wozniak
Well, I think.

00:17:51:07 - 00:17:53:17
Trent Loos
One of them's a state legislator, by the way.

00:17:53:19 - 00:18:07:04
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah. No, that that that's fair. That I, I think we have to start asking every single one of us, break down our walls and go, am I a useful idiot in this situation?

00:18:07:06 - 00:18:40:08
Trent Loos
Here's why we're where we are in 19. Are in 2022. We saw a decrease right now. Excuse me. Let me start this over from 2022 until I put maybe made some notes for you. Christy, today, from 2022 to 2023, we saw a decrease of net farm revenue from 184 billion down to 146 billion. That was a decrease of 19.5% of net farm income.

00:18:40:13 - 00:19:07:10
Trent Loos
Now, when I talk about net farm income, that includes these conservation payments. That includes the Equip funding. That includes so many things. And then we're going to USDA has just announced that they're going to we expect another 4.5% decrease in net farm income in 2024 because of decreased prices, particularly corn. We're seeing a decrease of total of corn revenue, up 20%.

00:19:07:12 - 00:19:36:24
Trent Loos
And so we know you don't have to be too awake to realize that the farm economy is in the tank, literally. And so what is happening is that we're continuing to push the farm revenue, the farm net profit, to a level where people have their backs against the wall, and they have now been convinced, because government officials are telling them the only chance you're going to save this and pass this on to the next generation is if you get one of these easements, we'll pay you.

00:19:36:24 - 00:20:01:05
Trent Loos
We'll pay you to put wind turbines up on this place. We're going to control it for the rest of your life and so on. Johnny's life and years grandeur on Johnny's life. But at least you'll be able to still be here. So people are making these decisions. Your term. I love your term useful it it's short term, making these decisions to become useful idiots because they've been presented with what they believe is the only option for survival.

00:20:01:07 - 00:20:17:14
Trent Loos
Yeah, that was a calculated effort. And until we stop saying, well, I got to do this because my neighbor is going to and if I do it, don't do it. My neighbor does. I'm going to be out of business. That's the problem. You've got to take a stand and say, no, we're going to take care of this land.

00:20:17:20 - 00:20:48:09
Trent Loos
Oh, and by the way, while all of this is taking place, here's the biggest one challenge 2% of the United the world's population lives in the United States, 2%. We have had a decrease in, agricultural exports in the last 12 months to the tune of $2 billion. We've had an increase of agricultural imports by $8 billion. So we've decreased exports 2 billion, increased exports 8 billion.

00:20:48:09 - 00:21:19:09
Trent Loos
That's a $10 billion deficit in agriculture exports in just 12 months. And now the experts are predicting that by mid 2025, our agricultural deficit is going to be $45 billion. We have the resources, we have the infrastructure, we have everything. We need to continue to be a food and fuel exporter to the world. We got to ask the question, why are we losing ground in this global marketplace?

00:21:19:15 - 00:21:28:06
Trent Loos
It's because people do not want us to continue to achieve and producing the essentials of life for the rest of the world, right.

00:21:28:08 - 00:21:37:02
Chrissy Wozniak
And so. Why? So why is this happening? Where is it coming from?

00:21:37:04 - 00:21:56:12
Trent Loos
Well, I could, you know, come up with some long answer that didn't make it sound like I was a conspiracy kook. But the truth of the matter is, they want to eliminate at least half of the people on the planet. In fact, I find this fascinating. I mentioned the animal rights community was what got me into media to begin with.

00:21:56:14 - 00:22:17:11
Trent Loos
People often talk about Klaus Schwab. They often talk about Bill gates and Bill gates. Is anybody has seen a video that says, we need to have 2 billion people on the planet, not 8 billion people. You know, the first person to ever publicly utter that we need a depopulate. The planet was right. Chrissy, as intelligent as you are.

00:22:17:13 - 00:22:24:08
Trent Loos
And by the way, if I didn't study this obsessively, I wouldn't know the answer to this either. Do you know who the first person to utter that publicly was?

00:22:24:10 - 00:22:25:24
Chrissy Wozniak
I have no idea.

00:22:26:01 - 00:22:28:09
Trent Loos
Jane Goodall.

00:22:28:11 - 00:22:29:14
Chrissy Wozniak


00:22:29:16 - 00:22:56:01
Trent Loos
The chimpanzee researcher from the jungles of Africa, and she came to a press conference and said, we need to decrease the global population of people. And and then all of a sudden and that was in, I believe it was 91 or 92. All of a sudden, we have these global leaders who are tyrants, not leaders who latch on to that.

00:22:56:03 - 00:23:19:14
Trent Loos
And that's where we're at today. We continue it because the same thing is happening in the UK, the same things happening in New Zealand, same thing is happening in Australia. It's happening in all these predominantly white Christian countries around the world. The rest of that probably ought to read revelations and you can find out why we're we are where we are.

00:23:19:16 - 00:23:23:19
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah. Good advice. Very good advice. And it's funny.

00:23:23:19 - 00:23:27:21
Trent Loos
Maybe start with Genesis. But if you don't have time for that, go to revelations.

00:23:27:23 - 00:23:33:13
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah. Read revelation and then start at Genesis and then figure it all out.

00:23:33:15 - 00:23:35:02
Trent Loos
Yeah.

00:23:35:04 - 00:24:05:03
Chrissy Wozniak
That's a good way to do it. But yeah, you hit the nail on the head for sure. I think one of one of the issues is they always make the the packaging so appealing, right? As they're trying to sell these ideas, they make it, you know, like you're a good person and and you're saving your grandmother and your, and now it's just so indoctrinated into people, you know, I can hardly go on Facebook anymore.

00:24:05:03 - 00:24:28:15
Chrissy Wozniak
You know, my daughter posted a picture of of two, two chickens, one from the 1950s and one now, and the one now is huge. And people are like cursing a 18 year old girl because of how horrible this is. And like, same difference between a Chihuahua and a Saint Bernard. It's selective breeding. Like what are they thinking is going on?

00:24:28:17 - 00:25:00:19
Chrissy Wozniak
And we can now we're at a place in agriculture where we can feed so many more people on such fewer resources in such little time, and create healthy food for so many people. It's just blows my mind that this indoctrination has taken such a firm grip on, on, on everyday people who just won't think critically. So what do you think are some steps people can take to try to break down these these walls?

00:25:00:19 - 00:25:07:18
Chrissy Wozniak
I know we always say, oh, we got to tell our story. Well, they got want to hear you before they hear your story.

00:25:07:20 - 00:25:37:01
Trent Loos
Yeah. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it. I know that very well, but I suggest if you want to get the first step, go find a fifth grade science book and get to the section about CO2 and see what CO2 is responsible for. CO2 is responsible for plant growth, and yet the entire world has been controlled, dived into believing that we need to be net carbon zero.

00:25:37:01 - 00:26:10:09
Trent Loos
The human body is 18% carbon, which means that net carbon zero we cease to exist. And so we're somehow now going to convince the world that we have to turn this tide of net carbon zero. Well, here's the biggest thing. All you need. Just a basic, simple thing beyond plant growth, beyond fueling photosynthesis. Interesting to note that a greenhouse has twice the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, as we currently have in our atmosphere, so that must mean plants in a greenhouse have the ideal environment with twice the amount of CO2 that we have.

00:26:10:11 - 00:26:41:10
Trent Loos
And the you know what? They make dry ice from CO2 because CO2 is about 90 degrees below zero in its natural state. When they're making this dry ice. Wait a minute. I thought we were removing CO2 from the atmosphere because it was causing global warming. No, CO2 is a cooling agent. So how is it that we've been fed this line that somehow CO2, a cooling agent, is causing global warming?

00:26:41:12 - 00:26:58:03
Trent Loos
When you go to the fifth grade science room and you read the fifth grade science book about CO2, you're going to be so mad at yourself that you fell prey to this nonsense. You're going to start telling every person you see about CO2 and how important it is in the atmosphere, where it's at.

00:26:58:05 - 00:27:23:15
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah, and I love hearing you speak all over the country about this issue. It's so important. I worked in the greenhouse industry for a long time, and we sold contraptions to make CO2 and create it and blow it into the greenhouse to feed the plants. So you never heard of anybody trying to shut that industry down, right? It.

00:27:23:15 - 00:27:46:15
Chrissy Wozniak
And I think while I was, you know, starting my career and working, but I never heard any of that in school. And then all of a sudden people are talking about CO2. I'm like, I, you know, I work with plants, they need CO2. What is where did this come from? And and tell me some of your insight into the follow the money trail that you've been down.

00:27:46:17 - 00:28:09:24
Trent Loos
Well, the money always comes back to the the individuals in the Bank of London and the Bank of London and I. You can't talk about this without mentioning the Rothschilds and their desire to control everything, including establishing the country of Israel, 1947. But just last week I had Doctor Ned Nicholas on my turn on the news program, who is a climate.

00:28:09:24 - 00:28:45:15
Trent Loos
So, climate scientist. And he studied the actual data that the International Panel on Climate Change and NASA and everybody else is talking about for CO2. He said the data itself doesn't even say the CO2 is responsible for warming. It is. Here's how stupid this all gets. It is the fact that we have less cloud cover over Earth than we have now, and there is a slight increase, according to Doctor Ned Nicholas, and the global temperatures, but we have less cloud cover than we've ever had before.

00:28:45:20 - 00:29:09:21
Trent Loos
So Bill gates, who is in the middle of every situation when it comes to the population of the Earth, has been funding creating this sulfur cover that would be in between the Sun and Earth. Now, what's so strange about and the reason is that it decreases the amount of sunlight against the Earth, which is going to decrease the temperature.

00:29:09:23 - 00:29:35:16
Trent Loos
What's the strangest thing about this? What did the United States government do in 2006? They created a low sulfur diesel fuel and said you could not have over X number of particles per million of sulfur in your diesel fuel, or you can't sell the ultra low sulfur diesel fuel. Why do you do that? Because sulfur was causing problems in the atmosphere.

00:29:35:18 - 00:30:15:10
Trent Loos
And now here we are 20 years later, and we have people talking about funding, creating a layer of sulfur between Earth and the sun. Even worse, sulfur is vitally important for soil health. I have only met one farmer in the last 20 years that tells me that they don't today. Add sulfur to the fertilizer mix when they never used to have to do this until the EPA takes sulfur out of the diesel fuel, which removes it from, for example, coal fired power plants have reduced their sulfur emissions by 92% since 1989, and now our soils are sulfur deficient.

00:30:15:12 - 00:30:34:21
Trent Loos
It's kind of funny. Crazy how God seem to have made all of these things to work in a certain way. We come along thinking that we can tell people we're thinking we're improving them, when in fact we create a grave danger. We just need to let nature take its course and learn how to manage within that nature event.

00:30:34:23 - 00:30:50:17
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Can you explain the plan for the carbon pipeline? Like technically, where is it going? Where is it coming? I lot of people in the East haven't really even heard of it. I know that everybody at West is talking about it.

00:30:50:19 - 00:31:26:00
Trent Loos
So we currently have 5200 miles of CO2 pipeline. And the reason that CO2 is in the pipeline to begin with is that there are 17 viable commercial uses for CO2. Most people who drive on a daily basis have some advantage of CO2, because if you go into a gas station and you get a carbonized soda pop, if you go to the bar and get a beer, you're at some level reaping the rewards of CO2 and a canister, by the way, is a little footnote.

00:31:26:00 - 00:32:07:03
Trent Loos
100 people in the United States each year die from mishandling of the CO2 canisters in bars, restaurants or cafes because they are compressed in. They're very explosive. So keep that in mind. Dry ice is another one of those CO2 uses that I mentioned. Another CO2 advantage is if you take CO2 and blend it with 50% natural gas, and you go into either the BOC and or the Permian Basin or any place where we're fracking and doing oil recovery, you can increase the amount of recovered oil by between 15 and 18% if you have that blend of CO2 and natural gas at 5050.

00:32:07:05 - 00:32:37:21
Trent Loos
And so they originally say the original plan, which was mostly a to, is that they're going to take CO2 from ethanol plants and coal fired power plants in Illinois, Iowa, a little bit of Minnesota, a little bit of Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota. And they're going to put it in the ground under the Bakken oil, oil, where the oil reserves are, where the poor spaces and the poor spaces where natural gas or oil once existed in this formation.

00:32:37:23 - 00:33:00:04
Trent Loos
And they're going to put it a mile and a half deep under the earth. That's not good, because I've already mentioned the dangers of compressed CO2. August of 2023 Cornell University releases a study that says, oh, turns out that CO2 is responsible for all volcanoes. We didn't know that it's CO2 coming through the Earth's crust and it causes a volcano.

00:33:00:10 - 00:33:33:08
Trent Loos
So why would we take CO2 from ethanol plants and coal fired power plants and put it a mile and a half deep under earth? When we know that it's responsible for all volcanoes? Nobody can answer that question yet. But here's what they've been talking about doing. And the states that I mentioned, 2300 miles of a CO2 pipeline, in some cases 12in some cases as big as 24in, and they want to compress the CO2 to a 2,200 pounds per square inch.

00:33:33:08 - 00:34:00:12
Trent Loos
So p.s.i at 1,070 pounds per square inch, CO2 is still a gas at above 1100 p.s.i and at 32 to 80 degrees CO2 in a in a compressed pipe is a liquid and it will flow. And so what they want to do is capture the CO2 from these plants. They want to cool it because coming out of the steam is hot.

00:34:00:12 - 00:34:24:23
Trent Loos
They got to cool it. They got to get it down and then they have a machine to compress it to get it at a very high compression rate. They put it in the pipeline, they send it down the pipeline. Interesting to note that almost every single plant, they have a prediction that it will take a third of the energy that is produced in that plant to cool and to compress the CO2 to get it in a pipeline.

00:34:25:04 - 00:34:43:14
Trent Loos
So if it's an ethanol plant or if it's Coal Creek power plant in North Dakota, they have to take a third of the electricity that they produce from this coal fired power plant to compress and cool the CO2, to get it in a pipeline to send it. And what they say is to bury it, because we've got to get it out of the atmosphere.

00:34:43:14 - 00:35:13:21
Trent Loos
That was the original purpose. XRS. We got to get this out of the atmosphere. Well, South Dakota Supreme Court said that in no way, shape or form do we see CO2 as a public use. This is clearly for private gain. And so eminent domain within the state of South Dakota cannot be used. And just last week we saw an appeal which was again denied by the South Dakota Supreme Court that said this is not for public use, that you must go.

00:35:13:23 - 00:35:35:24
Trent Loos
You must go to a lower court if you want to make this argument again. So I mentioned there's been 5200 acres or 5200 miles of CO2 pipeline for some time, one place from Beulah, North Dakota, and Saskatchewan where they've been using it for enhanced oil recovery. But that's not a supercritical pipeline, which means it's below 1070 in P.s.i.

00:35:35:24 - 00:36:05:04
Trent Loos
And it does not have the inherent risk like the pipeline did in Starship Mississippi when it, dropped. And I believe that was, six years ago. And we had first responders getting ill. We had people getting sick. And the other thing is that because I said that CO2 is a cooling agent, if it gets into the emergency vehicles like the fire truck, which it did, and the ambulance and fire truck in Mississippi because they didn't know how to handle CO2, it's unlike anything else that's ever been in the pipeline.

00:36:05:06 - 00:36:33:07
Trent Loos
It is 1.5 times heavier than oxygen, so it seeks low areas and it's just like a snake. It goes down low areas and it just comes at you. And these firefighters went in thinking that they were going to take it out. And what happened was all vehicles died and many of them ended up in the hospital. The other part that people need to remember is that the new packing plants for pork, turkey and, chicken use CO2 chambers to euthanize the animals.

00:36:33:07 - 00:37:03:24
Trent Loos
CO2 is an affliction if it's a fix, and if it isn't too high of a percentage at 7% of the atmosphere, they are euthanizing pigs, turkeys, and chickens. The plum model, the model that they look at. And if you live close to a CO2 pipeline, says that if you live within three miles of a pipeline compressed at 2200 p.s.i, you have less than eight minutes to get out of the kill zone, or you will be a fixated and die.

00:37:04:01 - 00:37:29:10
Trent Loos
That's just the highlights on the CO2 pipeline we have. Approval in Iowa can contingent upon South Dakota giving approval. South Dakota has not done that, and we have not gotten approval for a CO2 pipeline or this area in the paw space under Oliver Mercer counties in North Dakota. So the other thing that you need to know, no matter where you're at and you can think, well, well, I don't live in the Dakotas.

00:37:29:10 - 00:37:57:15
Trent Loos
It doesn't matter. And Department of Energy has released a model that by 2050, they want 90,000 miles of CO2 pipeline throughout the United States of America. If you don't believe that there is a model of depopulation and just look at what they have proposed for CO2 pipelines, and remember that CO2 chambers are how we kill pigs, turkeys and chickens in the nose.

00:37:57:15 - 00:37:59:07
Trent Loos
Facilities.

00:37:59:09 - 00:38:10:24
Chrissy Wozniak
Wow. So how are they marketing this? Or is it just money? Like how are they 100% money? Let's do this.

00:38:11:01 - 00:38:34:23
Trent Loos
We walked through it already. We talked about the financial scenario. And so then they come to you, they want an easement for the CO2 pipeline, which can be a quarter section. It might be a whole section. None of them are the same. And they're offering big money because it comes from the from the Inflation Reduction Act. I'll give you one on a little bit of history that's very relevant.

00:38:34:23 - 00:39:02:10
Trent Loos
In 2008 under George W Bush, they created the 45 Q and the 45 is the tax credits. Those were tax credits that were hanging out there for anything. They may be perceived to be beneficial to the environment. During the Obama administration, they increased the amount of money that was available for 45 Q and 45 Z tax credits to $50 a metric ton.

00:39:02:12 - 00:39:42:14
Trent Loos
That wasn't enough money per metric ton to really make a difference. Donald Trump in December of 2020 signed the Use It act, which was sponsored by legislators from Wyoming and North Dakota. Again thinking they were going to use the CO2 for enhanced oil recovery. And that made it possible to use it, called it to use it act so that they made it possible to use the 45 Q or 45 tax credits for the CO2 pipeline that still was at $50 a metric ton, and it didn't really make things happen until the Inflation Reduction Act went into effect.

00:39:42:16 - 00:40:05:07
Trent Loos
That moved the 45 Q 45 tax credits to $85 per metric ton, and that took the lid off of it. And here's the other part of that. That is a direct subsidy, but it is a tax credit. It's not an outright payment. So you have to think about I, I've never been in a position where I need a tax credit.

00:40:05:07 - 00:40:41:24
Trent Loos
Who needs tax credits? Bill gates, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett last year, Berkshire Hathaway, they proudly talked about acquiring 35 million in tax credits just from their wind turbine development centers they had around the nation. So this is at the end of the day, I can give you all the details, which I probably giving away too many already. Crazy, but at the end of the day, this is a transfer of wealth from the people on the land to a few who are these multimillionaires who need the tax credits.

00:40:42:01 - 00:41:12:12
Trent Loos
Let's not forget 7% of the global population. We know 7% of a global population emits over 70% of all emissions period. So the 7% continues to bring about these tax credit initiatives from 45 to 45 Z. So they can buy them and continue to be polluters while we, the peasants, are doing things that will not enable us to pass our land from one generation to the next.

00:41:12:14 - 00:41:23:20
Chrissy Wozniak
Right. And so then this is where your hope can come from with RFK in the administration. Because, as you were saying before, he doesn't agree with this, right?

00:41:23:22 - 00:41:30:16
Trent Loos
What he's adamantly opposed and did a wonderful video about CO2 pipelines and the dangers just to two weeks ago.

00:41:30:18 - 00:42:00:19
Chrissy Wozniak
Oh, well, that's good. I'll find that and put it in the show notes for anyone that wants to see it. Then. Yeah. So so you're thinking we should ease our fears a little bit and, about RFK and, understand that we're in a time where we have to separate truth from fiction is as well as we can, and stand hard for the truth and oppose everything else.

00:42:00:23 - 00:42:04:15
Chrissy Wozniak
Is that what you're saying?

00:42:04:17 - 00:42:24:10
Trent Loos
That is what I'm saying. But there's a part. We have an address that I just want to at least mention. And in fact, I was asked this question last week by USA today reporter. How, how am I feeling about the presidential election. And who am I going to vote for. And I said I'm not paying attention in presidential election.

00:42:24:10 - 00:42:50:23
Trent Loos
It's become irrelevant to me because we have had whatever president it is, including Donald Trump, George W Bush, Barack Obama, all acquire more power as a president than the Constitution said they should have. The answer to these challenges is still the same for me at the local level. I can tell you all about what's going on with property tax and school boards and school board.

00:42:51:04 - 00:43:14:17
Trent Loos
You know, we can look at the CO2 pipelines. We can look at all of these challenges to our property rights. And some of them bring along dangers where people could die. But the property tax issue has become the number one issue for every landowner from state to state. How does this happen? It happens through increase, assessments, valuations for what the property is worth.

00:43:14:19 - 00:43:46:07
Trent Loos
And that is in the state of Nebraska, 72% of property tax goes to fund the public school system. Only 28% goes to far 2,024% funds the county government, with the balance being the fire department, the community college, all of these other things. My ability to continue to operate this land, the killing I bought and pass it on to the next generation is completely dependent upon what happens in the in Sherman County, Nebraska, not what happens in Washington, DC.

00:43:46:09 - 00:44:04:19
Trent Loos
So it's more important for me to know who's on the school board, who the superintendent is, who the county commissioners are, and how I can control things at the local level. And then after that, I focus on what's happening at the state capital. And so in that order, I really don't pay much attention to what's going on with the presidential election, because it's all theatrics.

00:44:04:19 - 00:44:25:23
Trent Loos
In fact, I believe it was all predetermined quite some time ago, but I can't have an input. And I have great, enthusiasm of trying to nudge things at the political level in the local community, which is if our freedom is going to be maintained, it will happen in your county, not in Washington DC.

00:44:26:00 - 00:45:02:17
Chrissy Wozniak
That is so well-put. And yes, I, I 100% agree. I think we get so complacent in our communities. I couldn't tell you who the mayor is of Cape Coral, Florida. I yeah. So I definitely fail there. I, I look at big picture a lot, but you're totally right. The and I, I say this a lot actually that if, if our, the people that are running at the state level and then at the national level, they have to come from somewhere.

00:45:02:19 - 00:45:27:00
Chrissy Wozniak
And if we're not supporting the people at the beginning in the first steps and, and helping nurture them up through then they are being funded by where the money is coming from. And that's who's nurturing them. And then, then we have these really crappy choices when it gets up to the top. So tie that in with what you just said.

00:45:27:00 - 00:45:37:03
Chrissy Wozniak
Is that really we do need to focus hard on our towns, our communities and and our state and our counties. So thank you for that.

00:45:37:05 - 00:45:40:21
Trent Loos
Don't you love how every time we talk, you end up with the homework assignment?

00:45:40:23 - 00:45:44:13
Chrissy Wozniak
Yes, I'm joining the school board.

00:45:44:15 - 00:45:45:01
Trent Loos


00:45:45:03 - 00:45:46:01
Chrissy Wozniak
The kids are almost out.

00:45:46:01 - 00:45:49:08
Trent Loos
It's time Christy joined the school board.

00:45:49:10 - 00:45:52:20
Chrissy Wozniak
I'll find somebody who will do that.

00:45:52:22 - 00:45:56:15
Trent Loos
You could find a delegate, or you could just do it yourself.

00:45:56:17 - 00:46:03:11
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah, I guess. Okay. Any closing remarks?

00:46:03:13 - 00:46:28:09
Trent Loos
I was at a meeting in Enid, Oklahoma on Saturday night, and, assisting folks in Garfield County, Oklahoma fight an industrial solar complex. And I could tell in this audience, before I started speaking that I had a high percentage of veterans in the audience, and it was clearly the highest percentage of veterans I've had in an audience for quite some time.

00:46:28:11 - 00:46:53:03
Trent Loos
And I asked them all to stand up, and I said thank you to them. But then after I said thank you to them, I said I had a four star general. I was never in the military, but I interviewed as many military men and women as I possibly can. Retired four star general Jimmy Williams, United States Marine Corps, Arlington, Texas, September 21st, 2012.

00:46:53:05 - 00:47:35:09
Trent Loos
That's the guy and the day and the time. I remember it clearly because what he said impacted me forever. He said, stop giving lip service to the people who you're thanking for protecting your freedom. If you really want to say thank you to them, what you will do is exercise the rights that they have protected for you. So while we show appreciation and honor to those who have risked so much to protect our freedom, the greatest to play display of appreciation and honor is to go forward and utilize those amendments and every part of the U.S. Constitution that they took an oath to protect, and they actually risked their life for.

00:47:35:11 - 00:47:58:00
Trent Loos
So my closing thoughts are, don't just thank you, appreciate what the men and women have done to enable us to live in the greatest nation in the world, to call home. Do something different tomorrow than you did yesterday. To continue to maintain that freedom and remind ourselves that we need to. God bless the veterans and the farmers who Venus.

00:47:58:02 - 00:48:10:06
Chrissy Wozniak
That's beautiful. Very good way to close. Well, thank you, Trent, so much. Your wisdom and for all the work you do all across the country and your own community.

00:48:10:08 - 00:48:13:07
Trent Loos
Hope I see you soon. For the first time.

00:48:13:09 - 00:48:17:10
Chrissy Wozniak
I know we've never actually met in person. I know it's weird.

00:48:17:12 - 00:48:19:02
Trent Loos
Let's make it happen.

00:48:19:04 - 00:48:37:23
Chrissy Wozniak
Well, thank you so much. And thanks to all who were watching or listening. If you want to learn more, links are provided in the show notes. And don't forget to subscribe to enough North American I spotlight on on Rumble Telegram channels. Spotify, Apple Stitcher, Amazon, wherever you listen to podcasts, and if you like this episode, I would love it if you shared it and have a great day!